4Z to T-5 bellhousing

Impulsive Yank · Post by **Impulsive Yank** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:29 pm

after much delay I finally got one in my hands:

I also got the shift fork and a slave cylinder.

the bell is suprisingly light weight, i thought it was plastic when i first pulled it out of the box!

not sure wtf that other hole is for on the mounting face...

rodavo · Post by **rodavo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:41 pm

Where did you get it from? How much bigger is the T5 box compared to the 4Z?

Bugle · Post by **Bugle** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:24 pm

bags the next one you find!
Should be able to ship them here for fark all if they're that light.

You can bolt a T56 up to it can't you? They'd be pretty strong..

Madcat · Post by **Madcat** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:36 pm

Slave cylinder hole on the right???

Yard down the road has a Rodeo with the 2.6 and 5 speed...might get it with my taxes

I would just get the bellhousing but they won't part a good tranny.

Jim

Impulsive Yank · Post by **Impulsive Yank** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:23 am

Slave cylinder hole on the right???

you're correct, I was so excited to get the bell i didn't bother to unwrap the slave to inspect. or use logical thought.

You can bolt a T56 up to it can't you?

that's the plan. I need to get the 'retro-fit' Tremec box with the T5 adapter plate.

They'd be pretty strong..

stock rating is 400lb-ft, the GM/Viper hybrids are rated to 650.

I got lucky and scored this for super cheap, without finding one local it will generally cost $50 and up to get one. as mentioned in another thread i have no problems shipping stuff out down yonder.

Madcat · Post by **Madcat** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:52 am

Impulsive Yank wrote:
Slave cylinder hole on the right???
you're correct, I was so excited to get the bell i didn't bother to unwrap the slave to inspect. or use logical thought.

Uhuh distracted by the big shiny thing and ignored the grimy peice

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Maybe you NZ/OZ guys could work out a decent deal with these guys.

http://www.allhyundaiisuzuparts.com/

They would probably have them and some v6 bells as well if you wanted to try and shoehorn a v6 in your Piazzas.

Jim

Rodeobob · Post by **Rodeobob** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:24 pm

I will talk to them.

Theres only one problem.

Which T5 box does the bellhousing suit.

Theres two different bellhousing to box mounting patterns and 7 different input shaft lengths. Thats not to mention the different input splines. Well thats what we got here.

http://www.dellowauto.com.au/main.html
Get the 'product' PDF file up and theres a chart on page 12 of 35 that tells you whats what as far as T5 boxes go.

Ive got a T5 here, its out of our Australian 'Falcon' Thats a 4L 6cyl sedan. Its a bit of an odd duck out. I was going to use an old dead Gemini/Rodeo/luv box and mill up my own bellhousing.

I also have a T5 bellhousing here out of a Comaro, the one that puts the box on an 18deg tilt. Might be handy one day. lol.

Cheers, Bob.

Impulsive Yank · Post by **Impulsive Yank** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:27 am

well my pic shows the pattern.

I found this other pic and aparently it's same as the Ford box:

24 spline input shaft, uses same clutch kit as the other 2.6 apps but also uses a pilot bushing.
ID of the bush is .668" and .472" deep

input shaft length is 181.3mm acording to this graphic:

Bugle · Post by **Bugle** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:05 pm

Can you get T56 adaptors for the Ford pattern?

Impulsive Yank · Post by **Impulsive Yank** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:25 pm

i don't see why not, it's just a thick plate with holes drilled in it - at least one of the vendors offers to drill other patterns for a small fee. the Ford retro fit box comes with a new bell so they don't use the plate, but holes are holes. it's common known pattern and shouldn't be a problem.

one thing I'm not sure of now is the slave. it looks like the stock spot might interfere with the body of the trans.

Rodeobob · Post by **Rodeobob** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:27 pm

Impulsive Yank wrote:one thing I'm not sure of now is the slave. it looks like the stock spot might interfere with the body of the trans.

You could use an internal slave cylinder.

Its circular and goes over the input shaft. You need to space it up the right distance off the bearing snout on the box, bit of mucking about to get right but it can be done.

I think they were used on Saab's. They are a euro thing anyway.

Cheers, Bob.

100psi · Post by **100psi** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:46 am

what does that bell housing come out of. year,make,model ?